Now when I log in the site on my Samsung S10+......


  • Twisted Gypsies

    @cindu12 At least you got a response, and it came AFTER you realized that your phone settings were preventing the connection. It wasn't UrStyle per se, but likely their app.

    I don't take the response as having an attitude. There's a language barrier on their end to some extent, yet they did apologize for your having issues. They also asked if those issues are constant or intermittent. Asking questions helps them to determine what may be going wrong. If they weren't wanting to be helpful, they wouldn't have answered at all.

    In addition, they noted that both the website and the app SEEM to be working fine... They are understaffed and I'm thinking that the person who answered you is not a technical person, but someone giving general replies to all the e-mails they're getting. Maybe it's somebody's wife just being asked to help out!

    I think it's a good sign that they did reply to you, asked about your issue frequency, and indicated that both the App and the website SEEM to be working fine. If they are non-technical and only recently reading the many emails waiting in the UrStyle Inbox, how are they really going to know if the servers are having issues or not? I'm sure they'll be giving an overall report to whoever's tweaking the site functions and/or doing maintenance /upgrades.

    You may simply be frazzled from all the frustration of the last few days. Take a deep breath, my friend, and make a doll that represents the frustration you've been feeling, or one of the UrStyle IT tech as you imagine them to be, or even one as the angry poster from a couple days ago. Make yourself laugh!

    ❣ 😆 ❣


  • @funkyjunkygypsy

    I did not ask rhetorical questions or state my opinion to be condescended to, be lectured, have things "explained" to me, or to be told where I've erred.

    I merely asked them to give people something to think about. The fact that you felt the need to tear them apart is telling. If you want to sway people to your way of thinking that badly, have at it.

    No one has said that anyone has to give money. I've merely tried to point out that giving $5.00 a month is not a lot of money to give for a business that has given us a playground that we needed so badly. As for your "throwing money at them", making $5 sound like hundreds is in your best interests apparently. And a donation is just that, a donation. No one has asked for your firstborn.

    As for contradicting myself, I can tell you that I don't bring products here, I bring edited images. I don't benefit this business in any way except to donate. I don't need you to correct me.

    Lastly, you effectively called me unreasonable, when again, all I did was put my opinion out there, and state that it was my opinion, and that I was not judging. I'm still not judging. What everyone chooses to do is their business. I merely wanted them to see it from a different perspective. If they didn't, so be it.

    Asking people to think about something is not unreasonable. Insulting them for giving an opinion that is not harmful is.

  • 🩷Dollie🐰Divas🩷

    @funkyjunkygypsy Thanks dear, I do tend to over think things at times so I always appreciate a different perspective.

    Not that it matters, but this was from FB so your theory on who actually answered and given the language barrier is most accurate!

    I am doll making but am making things I enjoy and am putting this situation away!

    Your a good friend...🥰

  • 🩷Dollie🐰Divas🩷

    @wildcupcake I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion and although you did say your statements were rethorical I don't think you can be surprised that the response that you received wasn't just her opinion as well.

    I don't think she was attacking you but rather addressing your statements and I have to agree that I don't believe we owe Urstyle anything. This is a service that is provided that we have all signed up for and for which they clearly explain that they own all content, so technically we just rent our time from them, in my opinion.

    The one point I do disagree with is that thinking that $5 is not too much to ask. I think we should keep in mind that $5 to some people may as well be $500. I live alone, have one income, and live in one of the most expensive areas in the whole country, so $5 to me every month would have to be taken from somewhere else and although that may seem frugal or cheap to others, it is my reality and just as I completely respect your opinion and everyone else's, assuming people can do somthing just because you are in a position to is somewhat shortsighted.

    I hope nothing I have said offends you as that is certainly not my intention, I just wanted to offer you a different perspective.

    Have a pleasant rest of you day!

  • Twisted Gypsies

    @wildcupcake Ms. Cupcake,
    You got it all wrong. I was not lecturing to you. I was simply disagreeing with the idea of donating money to a business and explaining my point-of-view. Usually, when someone expresses disagreement, an explanation is expected. I disagreed. I explained. My reply was to you because you asked us to consider donating, but my explanation was for all who read my reply, offering the reasons for my disagreement about it.

    My statement regarding contradictions was: “I believe you unknowingly contradict yourself.” I did not state that you did contradict yourself, but that I believe you have done so without realizing. I explained that, too.

    As for the word “unreasonable”, that was pertaining to UrStyle asking for donations, not anything you said.

    So chill! No reason to be defense or to take offense. I was just putting in my three cents -- which I know used to be worth two, but I’m accounting for inflation. 🙃

  • Twisted Gypsies

    @cindu12 I think we all over-think things at times, especially when frustrated. Can't wait to see what you create!


  • I merely wanted people to see a different perspective. I asked some questions and asked people to consider them.

    UrStyle isn't asking for donations, I asked people to consider it. UrStyle didn't ask for anything.

    I am now irritated as all hell, because something so simple got turned into something so ridiculously complicated.

    If every one of you decided not to donate, that's your choice. I am not responsible for you and your choices. I accomplished what I set out to do, which was to get you to think about it. That was all I wanted.

    So can you please stop addressing me about it and go back to whatever? Trust me, it's for the best.

  • Twisted Gypsies

    @wildcupcake said in Now when I log in the site on my Samsung S10+......:

    UrStyle isn't asking for donations, I asked people to consider it. UrStyle didn't ask for anything.

    Actually, UrStyle IS asking for donations. https://www.patreon.com/join/urstyle

    And yes, you did accomplish what you set out to do and I did consider what you asked people to consider. I also gave you what I feel is a respectful reply. If you read it aloud, with a calm, friendly voice, I think you'll "feel" it as it was intended. So much gets lost without facial expressions, tone of voice, and other nuances that would more correctly convey the written word.

    It's okay to disagree with one another. A disagreement is not a personal attack. It's a discussion. You've made it clear that a discussion is not what you wanted, nor did you want a reply. I guess Upvotes and Downvotes is all you would find acceptable, or is that not okay too? (I'm serious.)

    I came from another angle in that, if I'd asked people to consider certain points, I'd be interested in their perspective after having considered them. Whether or not they agreed with me wouldn't affect my interest in understanding their point-of-view, which leads me to ask: Would you be so irritated if I'd agreed with you? Would you have told me that you feel that I shouldn't have replied to your post because all you wanted was for people to think about the points you made?

    As someone I consider one of my UrStyle friends, I would expect you to know that nothing I said to you was meant to be negatively personal. I believe you misunderstood my reply, and that your reaction to it is due to your misunderstanding of it. Straightening that out, in my opinion, is for the best and I hope I have done that. 💙


  • You know, it would have been respectful if you had just done what I asked and stopped addressing me.

    I never said I didn't want a discussion, nor did I imply it in any way, I merely said I wanted people to consider the questions that I posed. That neither implied nor denied discussion.

    What I didn't ask for was people to address me as if I personally was asking for something that was so out of the realm of possibility, or so out of the reach of their pocketbook, or so unreasonable of me to ask - that I was the bad guy here.

    All of my points on this forum post have been strictly about just what are on this forum post. It's that simple. So the fact that UrStyle is asking elsewhere for people to donate has nothing to do with this discussion (or me), I was referring to my asking and this forum post.

    Whether you agreed with me or not did not matter. I did not open this subject of consideration up for debate with me, I opened it up for consideration only. I don't care what your reasoning is, or whether you are going to give or not. I don't care if you agree with me or not. It's been obvious from the beginning that most don't, and that is their choice. I wasn't here to debate it. I wasn't here to discuss it. I merely posed some questions to ask them to consider another point of view, and it was intended to be left at that. I did not once go argue this with anyone.

    But you, FJG, just need to keep poking the beehive. Whether you intend to or not, you make jabs that are indeed personal. They are little, tiny breakdowns of what a person might have meant, could have been saying, what their intentions seem to be, and then...it's how they aren't open to discussion and maybe just want something along the lines of upvotes. Seriously? You told me to "chill", as if I'd lost it, which I hadn't. You tell me to read your post in a way that makes it clear that you are being reasonable, and I, by being irritated, am not.

    What I am, is blunt. I am honest. I merely stated what I felt. I asked for what I wanted. You, though, while making it look like you are trying to "make things right", are continuing to tear my posts apart. Go right ahead. I honestly don't care. You can make every single person on here think I'm nuts (and yes, you can spread what you know about me far and wide, if that's your choice). The only opinion that matters to me in the long run is mine. And replies from here on are going to be ignored. You just needed to hear from me that I see you. I acknowledge what you're doing. I don't like it, and I will no longer respond to it. And no, I am no longer irritated. I'm not even mad. I'm just tired of this mess.

    I've lost complete respect for you, and you and I are not friends in any shade of the word. It was fun punnin' with you, but we're done. You pushed this, I made it public, next time...respect someone's boundaries.

    To everyone else on this post:

    The questions I posed were for consideration only. They weren't meant to be a topic for debate. You're adults, you make your own choices for your own reasons, and I'm not going to try one way or the other to change that. I merely wanted to give people another perspective. I tried one time to "sway" you to looking at this compared to Polyvore.

    Well, apparently that didn't go so well. My bad.

    What I didn't want was people to explain to me why they weren't going to donate. I don't care. If you're not going to, then don't. I don't want to know your reasoning, and I said I wasn't judging. If you give a reason I think doesn't make sense, I might be thinking thoughts that would be judgmental, which is why I didn't want to debate this. Your thinking was hopefully going to be silent, or amongst yourselves here - and not directed at me.

    I should have known better.

    Which was why I ultimately asked to stop being addressed. Just discuss it amongst yourselves. Leave me out of it. I had my say, have now made it clear that what you do is what you do, and I'm not trying to change your minds, and I wish to be left out of this completely.

    I'm not holding it against you if you don't donate. That's your choice. I don't make your choices for you, nor would I attempt to. You don't need to explain your choices to anyone.

    My apologies to all of you for this getting so ridiculously out of hand. This will be my last post on this topic.

  • Twisted Gypsies

    @wildcupcake Oh, goodness gracious, @WildCupcake! I’ve explained my responses to you. Both my responses and my explanations were written respectfully. You posted questions that you wanted us to consider, and I DID consider those questions. I just happened to disagree. Big deal! There’s nothing personal in that.

    I’m confused about you’re not wanting to be “addressed”. I was not aware (until your previous post) that you didn’t want any responses whatsoever, for any reason, to your questions. I did not see anything definitive stating that you simply wanted to pose questions for us to consider and that it was to “be left at that”.
    What you’d stated initially was: “I'll start with a few basic questions, ones that don't require an answer…” Saying that your questions “don't require an answer” is not the same as saying you don’t want anyone to answer your questions under any circumstances.

    You now state that: “…I merely said I wanted people to consider the questions that I posed. That neither implied nor denied discussion.” Since your questions did not deny discussion, why are you so upset that I responded? Again, I ask you: Would you be this upset if I’d agreed with you?

    I’m truly baffled at your reaction. You’re reacting as if I attacked you, which I most certainly did not. From what I wrote, as well as reading what others have written to you, I don’t see anything suggesting that you’re “the bad guy”. And let me remind you that I was referring to UrStyle requesting donations as being “unreasonable”, not you being unreasonable. So, what am I missing?

    You clarified your “terms” (for lack of a better word) by recently posting:
    • I wasn't here to debate it.
    • I wasn't here to discuss it.
    • I merely posed some questions to ask them to consider another point of view, and it was intended to be left at that.

    You seem to have your own set of rules as it comes to posting in a community forum, yet you also seem to misinterpret what I’ve said and/or why I’ve said it. Never did I state or imply that I wanted to debate with you or anyone else. A discussion exploring both sides of the donation issue would have been welcome; a discussion with those who wished to explore the subject further.

    I did not poke beehives, as you put it, or tear your posts apart. Seriously? This may be how you see and react to my replies, but you’re incorrect. I expressed my opinions about the donation issue and used factual information (such as UrStyle’s Terms of Service) to illustrate why my opinions are what they are. It was not directed at you. It was offered for anyone who may have been interested.

    What really has me stumped is your out-of-nowhere remark: “You can make every single person on here think I'm nuts (and yes, you can spread what you know about me far and wide, if that's your choice).”
    Where the hell did that come from? Why on earth would I ever want to be so sadistic and cruel as to attempt to persuade anyone to think anything negative about you? I can separate a person from a difference of option I may have with them. Not agreeing with your point of view does not affect how others respond to you, nor does it affect my personal feelings for you.

    @wildcupcake I’m not trying to make things right. I did nothing wrong. I shared my opinions, just as you did. I pushed nothing. Well, maybe I pushed your buttons, but that wasn’t my intention. Telling you to ‘chill’ was simply telling you to relax; everything’s okay. It does not imply that you ‘lost it’, as you put it. Not at all. I welcome any examples you care to share with me about “jabs” you feel I made toward you personally. I was serious when I asked you about upvotes. That was not a jab. I really want to know what your boundaries are. Again, you seem to have specific rules on how we are, and how we are not, to reply to you.

    Obviously, you and I interpret things very differently and those differences seem to be unhealthy and destructive rather than perceived as opportunities to expand and share with one another in a safe and meaningful way. Therefore, I understand and respect your decision to end our friendship. I do not agree with your reasons. Some make no sense whatsoever, and others seem childish. And guess what? It’s okay if you don’t agree with me on that! It doesn’t change the respect I have for you.

    Wishing you the very best,
    FJG

ACTIVE URSTYLERS

Looks like your connection to URSTYLE was lost, please wait while we try to reconnect.