The Island of Delselva: Quote Inspiration
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@ayzrules omg stop, you're making me wanna go back to school! lol
but wow yes i love that so much, it really is relevant:
"in that environment everything was likely to be shaped by the reality of mystery"
and the part about the dominator culture.....EXACTLY up my alley in terms of what i had in mind :,) -
@ahlexandra AHHHH yes yes yes
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@ahlexandra holy fucking shit I found this in my notes and so sorry i keep spamming you but-
βBut a fullgrown horse or dog is beyond comparison to a more rational, as well as a more conversable animal, than an infant of a day, or a week, or even a month, old. But suppose they were otherwise, what would it avail? The question is not, Can they reason? nor Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?"
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@ayzrules girl you are NEVA spamming me i crave the quotes you find and i don't even know it LOL
our kids can tell when animals are suffering me and....i'm not ready for that pain
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@ahlexandra SORRY I'M SO ANNOYING but im back with more quote spam. lol yikes im so extra sorry sorry sorry
βThe land cannot be separated from people...the very bones of our ancestors are present in the earth and help make the soil that grows our food. Our indigenous ancestors gave us life, we are part of them, and their bodies have become part of the earth, therefore we are part of the earth.β -
@ahlexandra do u think we should we base how Delselvans (maybe more the selva side than delas? idk haha) think about hunting animals on the Cree beliefs?
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@ayzrules wait i wanna give you a thoughtful response to both of these so i WILL get back to you bear with me. YOURE THE BEST thank you for keeping me inspired xx
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@ahlexandra
no worries take your time! And I'm just a nerd + we're doing a lot of reading related to indigenous environmental views in one of my classes RN so of course I have to share every little thing ahhhh sorry hahaha
These quotes in this post are from a book called "Braiding Sweetgrass" and I've only read a couple chapters but it seems really good!
I uploaded PDF of specific chapter I had to read for class to Google Drive, hopefully this link works! Lmk if it doesn't
-βNanabozho did not know his parentage or his origins-only that he was set down into a fully peopled world of plants and animals, winds, and water. He was an immigrant too. Before he arrived, the world was all here, in balance and harmony, each one fulfilling their purpose in the Creation. He understood, as some did not, that this was not the βNew World,β but one that was ancient before he came.β-βTime is not a river running inexorably to the sea, but the sea itself-its tides that appear and disappear, the fog that rises to become rain in a different river. All things that were will come again.β
-βHis role was not to control or change the world as a human, but to learn from the world how to be human.β
-βHe walked the land, handing out names to all he met, an Anishinaabe Linnaeus. I like to think of the two of them walking together. Linnaeus the Swedish botanist and zoologist, in his loden jacket and woolen trousers, with felt hat cocked back on his forehead and a vasculum under his arm, and Nanabozho naked but for his breechcloth and a single feather, with a buckskin bag under his arm. They stroll along discussing the names for things. Theyβre both so enthusiastic, pointing out the beautiful leaf shapes, the incomparable flowers. Linnaeus explains his Systema Naturae, a scheme designed to show the ways in which all things are related. Nanabozho nods enthusiastically, βYes, that is also our way: we say, βWe are all related.ββ He explains that there was a time when all beings spoke the same language and could understand one another, so all of Creation knew each otherβs names. Linnaeus looks wistful about that. βI ended up having to translate everything into Latin,β he says of binomial nomenclature. βWe lost any other common language long ago.β Linnaeus lends Nanabozho his magnifying glass so he can see the tiny floral parts. Nanabozho gives Linnaeus a song so he can see their spirits. And neither of them are lonely.β
-βNanabozho was counseled by many plants too, who shared gifts, and learned to treat them always with the greatest respect. After all, plants were here first on the earth and have had a long time to figure things out. Together, all the beings, both plants and animals, taught him what he needed to know. The Creator had told him it would be this way.β
-β...the plants are our oldest teachersβ.
-βHad the new people learned what Original Man was taught at a council of animalsβnever damage Creation, and never interfere with the sacred purpose of another beingβthe eagle would look down on a different world. The salmon would be crowding up the rivers, and passenger pigeons would darken the sky. Wolves, cranes, Nehalem, cougars, Lenape, old-growth forests would still be here, each fulfilling their sacred purpose. I would be speaking Potawatomi. We would see what Nanabozho saw. It does not bear too much imagining, for in that direction lies heartbreak.β
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@ayzrules so I don't forget this quote lmao
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@ayzrules at this point i think i just have to print out this webpage huh hahahaha i honestly consider it the greatest textbook of all time
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@ahlexandra omg hahaha I'm glad at least someone appreciates my utter nerdiness